Mentor Veteran Janna
Primary
Tier
2-Cost Reroll
1-Cost Reroll
2-Cost Reroll
3-Cost Reroll
Fast 8
Fast 9
1 & 2-Cost Reroll
1 & 3-Cost Reroll
2 & 3-Cost Reroll
9
102
Main
▾
Traits
1
Body Change
1
1
Veteran
1
4
Strategist
2 > 3 > 4 > 5
3
Mentor
1 > 2 > 4
3
Mighty Mech
3 > 5 > 7 > 7
2
Executioner
2 > 3 > 4 > 5
2
Heavyweight
2 > 4 > 6
2
Juggernaut
2 > 4 > 6
2
Protector
2 > 4 > 6
1
Crystal Gambit
3 > 5 > 7 > 10
1
Duelist
2 > 4 > 6
1
The Crew
2 > 2 > 2 > 2 > 2 > 2 > 2
1
Wraith
2 > 4 > 6
1
1
4
3
3
2
2
2
2
1
1
1
1
Tips & Tricks
- Comp only works with the Veteran Power Up on Janna. This means you should generally only angle it if you hit Veteran on Janna early
- If you want to maximize your probability of hitting Veteran, aim for any Power Up Janna can hit on a unit OTHER than Janna. Does not matter what the unit is. You cannot get the power up twice, so doing this removes the power up from Janna’s Power Up pool when you use the second Power Up on her.
- The earliest you’ll be able to do this is 3-6 (when you get your second Power Up). Try fishing on any unit that can get Janna Power ups during neutrals on 3-7 and then use all Power Up removers on Janna to try and hit Veteran on 4-1. While this does maximize your odds, it is not guaranteed to hit.
- Do NOT use removers when fishing for a Power Up on the first irrelevant unit. Sell the unit if you miss and keep cycling through champions until you hit. After you (hopefully) hit Veteran Janna, you can switch to fruiting Kobuko.
- Triple Warmogs build on Kobuko is mostly if you can get Atomic Power Up
Strong Conditions
+3 Tier Conditions B → S+
Unending Despair
Isekai+2 Tier Conditions B → S
Horizon Focus
Manazane
Radiant Blue Buff
Strategist Emblem
Prismatic Ticket+1 Tier Conditions B → A
Silvermere Dawn
Belt Overflow
Component Buffet
Crown’s Will
Heroic Grab BagHeroic Grab Bag+
Kingslayer
Pandora’s Items
Pandora’s Items II
Pandora’s Items III
Rolling For Days IOpeners
Crystal Gambit
SyndraJanna
Vi
Swain4
Mentor Janna
Aatrox
MalphiteJanna
Kobuko
Ziggs2
2
2
2
1
Mighty Mech
Aatrox
Kennen
Lucian
Gangplank
Udyr3
2
2
2
1
Kobuko
Janna
K’Sante
Heavyweight
Mentor
Kobuko
2
2
Body Change
Atomic
Best Defense
Current
Best-in-Slot
Alt Build 1
Alt Build 2
Alt Build 3
Golden Paw Mantra
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Crystal Chrysalis
Breakout Force
)Economy Strategy
- Level to 4 if you have upgrades and a good item to place on one of those upgrades.
- Level to 5, unless on 3 loss streak.
- Level to 6. Roll until stable. “Stable” changes depending on rank, items, augments, composition, and patch, but generally speaking it involves 2-starring your desired 2-cost carry and a tank with items. Major divergence between elos: The lower your elo, the less upgrades you need to be “stable” and thus lower elo players should generally roll less than high elo players on 3-2.
- After your 3-2 rolldown, you should attempt to rebuild your economy to 50g.
- Once you reach 50g (it might be later than 3-5), start slow rolling down to ~52g each turn. Try to avoid rolling to exactly 50g as any unit you want to buy in shop will put you below 50g.
- If you are high HP relative to the lobby, continue slow rolling to 52g each turn. If you are lower HP, you should roll to hit your first 2-cost 3 star on 4-1 or 4-2. If you have to roll below 30g, your placement is usually capped at 3rd or 4th.
- If you are still high HP (70+), you can continue to slow roll. Otherwise, in the majority of cases, you should roll deep for your 3-stars here. If your HP is low, you can even go to 0 gold looking for your 3-stars. If you have your 3-stars and can afford to level to 7 with 10g+, do so.
- Level to 7 if you haven’t already.
- Level to 8 as soon as possible. This may not happen until 5-5 or in some games, stage 6.
- Level to 9 whenever possible. This is rare, but can happen in the games you have a chance of winning.
ekko items?
Two much value start : https://tftflow.com/team-builder/fc02d1ae
If Strategist Emblem is good, maybe Isekai (Strategist) is good too?
def good but prob worse then emblem imo the emblem bonus is pretty nice
went 7th because 2 players are playing akali. shit comp
skill diff
just the worst comp ever imagined
Seems fun to play, absolutely not contested, but too many conditions to even go top 4 as during the lvl 6 Slow roll to get 3 starts J&K, the comp is not viable at all.
A lot of conditions to even make it viable :
1) Slow-roll lvl 6 to get 3 Stars jana + kobuko
2) Survive the guaranteed chain lose before lvl 8 & 4 Mentors + 4 Stategists
3) Fish for vet on jana
Most of my game i need to giveup the lvl 6 slowroll because really low hp and need to level up to get mentor bonus active.
What do you pick for Janna Powerup if you CANNOT get Veteran?
pick another game. The comp literally only works if Janna got veteran
Might be worth mentioning Strategist Emblem as a condition + item on Kobuko. The start of combat shield when combined with Best Defense and buffing Janna’s damage even more is pretty strong.
“You cannot get Sky Piercer twice, so doing this removes Sky Piercer from Janna’s Power Up pool when you use the second Power Up on her.”
Does this mean you can NEVER see Sky Piercer again that game, or just that round/stage?
The way I read it is that 2 Sky Piercers can’t coexist at the same time, meaning that if say Ryze has Sky Piercer, Janna can’t roll this.
As long as you have an unit with sky piercer you can never see it on another unit
Is prismatic ticket good for this?
wtf do you think lmao
It’s bad, you’ll hit all your 3 stars and you won’t be able to hit the reroll button anymore and your fingers will cramp, do not recommend.
Unending Despair lives up to its name and gives me Unending Despair, this makes the comp OP-tier with Best Defense Kobuko
Honestly, Unending Despair with Body Change for a huge early game nuke is often enough and keeps him alive longer than Best Defense.
Don’t you lose mentor bonus with janna as a vet? Wouldn’t you wanna play yasuo as otherwise whats the point of taking veteran and playing kobuko?
Nevermind I realize my mistake
I’ve played this comp for a while now, and for items I usually go Blue Buff, JG, and Nashor. Radiant Nashor is S+ tier. JG is super important because it lets Nashor crit.
From my experience, Veteran shows up like 90% of the time between 2-1 and 2-4. For augments, Best Defense isn’t really necessary—if I don’t get it, I usually play Bodychange or Atomic instead.
Lvl 7 with good items + 3★ Janna Kabuko is already enough for a guaranteed top 4.
I’m looking at tftacademy tips and i’m not sure what it means by “You are unlikely to be able to re-fruit Janna later in the game so try to avoid playing this if you don’t get it early”. Is there a best stage to try to hit the veteran fruit?
because u want to hit best defense on kobuko which is rarer than veteran on janna
got scammed by tftacademy and go 8th, stupid site with weird name comp and all wrong item recommended and power up
TFTAcademy’s guide for this comp is fine — the builds they are recommending are fine. The site is one of the most reputable out there. We technically compete for users, but realistically I think anyone could benefit from using both. Just throwing that out there.
really good comp. should lose streak until 3-2. comp stablises on 3-2 with janna 2 + kobuko 2 and some items until early-mid stage 4.